SPARMAN · Apr 11, 2007, 03:33 PM // 15:33

Ok , where did the vigor's go at the rune trader. I am not complaining to bad cause I was abe to buy them second hand for less from someones treasure run. Just found them and a few other runes missing at the trader.

Anyone know why. I mean the extra 50 health is a must for a warrior.

Hobbs · Apr 11, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Could be a bug or maybe the rune trader was just sold out if loads of people bought quickly. It happens to the new classes runes when a new campaign comes out so it can happen, just takes a bunch of people who want it.

Knightsaber Sith · Apr 11, 2007, 03:46 PM // 15:46

I'd say just sold out.

SPARMAN · Apr 11, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48

I hear what you are saying, I have seen that with rune of Verti and such, but
never all 3 vigor's missing for days. It's like they are gone from the trader's choices.

Is someone in game now, try and buy any of the vigors.

Mike_version2 · Apr 11, 2007, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Its either a bug or its sold out, most probably the latter.

CyberMesh0 · Apr 11, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52

Based on last week's update, I have one word for you. Razah.

in other words, everything's sold out.

Ritual del Fuego · Apr 11, 2007, 04:09 PM // 16:09

I purchased a major vigor last night from the trader so I'm guessing they are just sold out again. With all the heroes out there now, most people keep their vigors rather than selling them to the trader.

kicks66 · Apr 11, 2007, 04:18 PM // 16:18

Its the same with a lot of lesser used runes

The rune trader hasnt had wilderness survival supers the last couple of times ive checked

Alleji · Apr 11, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberMesh0

Based on last week's update, I have one word for you. Razah.

in other words, everything's sold out.

Ah, that's why a lot of rit runes are sold out... I was wondering why minor restoration had suddenly become extremely popular.

Shyft the Pyro · Apr 11, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51

In terms of market economics, the only possible explanation (assuming constant supply) is rising demand. The Razah rush is a plausible cause for the shortage, much the same way insignias and runes were priced high or absent from traders immediately following Nightfall release.

That said, I have my suspicions about assuming the supply isn't changing on its own. I am yet to get a single Vigor rune of any sort from a Nightfall armor, even a Minor one. My guess is that ANet has purposely coded the Vigor runes not to drop in Nightfall, and replaced them with the new condition-duration runes and Vitality/Attunement ones which do not drop outside of Nightfall. Combined with the fact that less people have stayed in Prophecies and Factions due to Nightfall's release, and the fact that fewer people have been farming runes ever since the drop frequency adjustment a while back, I can speculate that the supply, too, has dried up, and could not keep up with raised demand in its weakened state.

Scutilla · Apr 11, 2007, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

I am yet to get a single Vigor rune of any sort from a Nightfall armor, even a Minor one. My guess is that ANet has purposely coded the Vigor runes not to drop in Nightfall, and replaced them with the new condition-duration runes and Vitality/Attunement ones which do not drop outside of Nightfall.

I've gotten several, including a Superior Vigor off a Margonite.

It doesn't make sense that they'd remove Vigors (one of the most important runes) from an entire chapter and force NF-only players to buy them from players or the trader.

deadmonkey4u · Apr 11, 2007, 06:58 PM // 18:58

Supply and Demand I guess. I personally keep around 50 sup vigors spare lying around and see no reason to sell them. Everyone could use a sup vigor per char and per hench so I guess their just bought out

DarkSpell · Apr 11, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20

I noticed that with the Priests of Balthazar only the minor profession runes are available for unlocking. The major and superior runes don't show up. Or is it just me?

Toutatis · Apr 11, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSpell

I noticed that with the Priests of Balthazar only the minor profession runes are available for unlocking. The major and superior runes don't show up. Or is it just me?

The priests only show the lowest level of each rune type available for unlocking. It forces you to unlock in sequence if you're only doing it by spending balthazar faction - minor for 1000 faction, followed by a major for 1500 faction, then the superior for 2000 faction.

Nkah Sennyt · Apr 11, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29

It's because you don't use question marks when asking a question, and don't know where apostrophes go.

nbajammer · Apr 12, 2007, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

condition-duration runes and Vitality/Attunement ones which do not drop outside of Nightfall.

Not true. I've gotten plenty of those in Tyria and Cantha as well.

Apr 11, 2007, 03:33 PM // 15:33	#1
SPARMAN Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas Guild: SPQR Profession: W/Mo	I missed the Memo on Vigor's Ok , where did the vigor's go at the rune trader. I am not complaining to bad cause I was abe to buy them second hand for less from someones treasure run. Just found them and a few other runes missing at the trader. Anyone know why. I mean the extra 50 health is a must for a warrior. Last edited by SPARMAN; Apr 11, 2007 at 03:37 PM // 15:37..

Apr 11, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29	#15
Nkah Sennyt Awaken from hiatus. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Riding the spiral. Guild: No Fun Allowed [Vdya]	It's because you don't use question marks when asking a question, and don't know where apostrophes go. __________________ Retired Campfire/Ventari's Moderator

Apr 11, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37	#2
Hobbs Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Organised Spam [OS] Profession: W/	Could be a bug or maybe the rune trader was just sold out if loads of people bought quickly. It happens to the new classes runes when a new campaign comes out so it can happen, just takes a bunch of people who want it.

Apr 11, 2007, 03:46 PM // 15:46	#3
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	I'd say just sold out.

Apr 11, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48	#4
SPARMAN Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas Guild: SPQR Profession: W/Mo	I hear what you are saying, I have seen that with rune of Verti and such, but never all 3 vigor's missing for days. It's like they are gone from the trader's choices. Is someone in game now, try and buy any of the vigors.

Apr 11, 2007, 03:49 PM // 15:49	#5
Mike_version2 Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006	Its either a bug or its sold out, most probably the latter.

Apr 11, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52	#6
CyberMesh0 Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV] Profession: N/Me	Based on last week's update, I have one word for you. Razah. in other words, everything's sold out.

Apr 11, 2007, 04:09 PM // 16:09	#7
Ritual del Fuego Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CA Guild: Frogs in Winter [FiW]	I purchased a major vigor last night from the trader so I'm guessing they are just sold out again. With all the heroes out there now, most people keep their vigors rather than selling them to the trader.

Apr 11, 2007, 04:18 PM // 16:18	#8
kicks66 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Guild: [Cape] Profession: E/	Its the same with a lot of lesser used runes The rune trader hasnt had wilderness survival supers the last couple of times ive checked

Apr 11, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51	#10
Shyft the Pyro Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC, USA Profession: E/Mo	In terms of market economics, the only possible explanation (assuming constant supply) is rising demand. The Razah rush is a plausible cause for the shortage, much the same way insignias and runes were priced high or absent from traders immediately following Nightfall release. That said, I have my suspicions about assuming the supply isn't changing on its own. I am yet to get a single Vigor rune of any sort from a Nightfall armor, even a Minor one. My guess is that ANet has purposely coded the Vigor runes not to drop in Nightfall, and replaced them with the new condition-duration runes and Vitality/Attunement ones which do not drop outside of Nightfall. Combined with the fact that less people have stayed in Prophecies and Factions due to Nightfall's release, and the fact that fewer people have been farming runes ever since the drop frequency adjustment a while back, I can speculate that the supply, too, has dried up, and could not keep up with raised demand in its weakened state.

Apr 11, 2007, 06:58 PM // 18:58	#12
deadmonkey4u Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Hoser Down[HD]	Supply and Demand I guess. I personally keep around 50 sup vigors spare lying around and see no reason to sell them. Everyone could use a sup vigor per char and per hench so I guess their just bought out

Apr 11, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20	#13
DarkSpell Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: [OoO] Profession: R/Mo	I noticed that with the Priests of Balthazar only the minor profession runes are available for unlocking. The major and superior runes don't show up. Or is it just me?